mitt romney was the first guy-- barack obama took gm and chrysler through bankruptcy. mitt romney was for guaranteeing loans, and they're still trying to explain it. and he's very much on the defensive. so obama is running better with whites and white males in ohio than he is elsewhere, in large part because of the auto bailout and they've got a great ground game in ohio too. >> we should emphasize it's not a slam-dunk for obama. if you look at the polls it's been a very steady two point advantage. >> uh-huh. >> in the state for obama. and one of the oddities of the race so far is that the national numbers probably a slight romney favorite right now, the state numbers like ohio, and obama favored. and i don't know too many experienced political hands who expect that to continue, that you get at this junction between the national numbers and some of these swing state numbers. usually they come together. it's possible that if say romney gets a plurality or a majority of 50.6, it's possible to see him losing the electoral college. if he's up over 51 or 52, it's hard to re